Discus fry growth rate issues

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sunny
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Discus fry growth rate issues

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My Discus fry are about six weeks old now and they still look tiny compared to what I've seen online. They're in a 40 gallon breeder with a sponge filter, bare bottom, and a heater holding 84F. I feed powder fry food three times daily plus baby brine once a day. Water changes are 30 percent every other day with dechlorinator and temp matched from a bucket. Parents got pulled two weeks ago into a 75 gallon downstairs. Some fry seem active and chase food, a few hang near the heater and barely eat. The room gets indirect window light about eight hours daily. Could stunted growth just be slow genetics or am I missing something obvious with feeding or water changes?
swiftly
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Six weeks is still early but yours sound small if some barely eat. What size were they when you pulled the parents? I ran into this last year with a spawn in a 20 long, sponge filter at 86F, feeding beef heart mix and decapsulated brine plus powder four times a day. Growth picked up when I bumped water changes to daily 40 percent and added a small sponge pre filter on the intake. Fry hanging by the heater can mean stress or too much flow from the sponge filter bubbling hard. Also check nitrate, mine stalled around 20 ppm even with zero ammonia and nitrite on the test strips. Try target feeding in a quiet corner with lights dimmed an hour after.
Dream
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I agree with swiftly that six weeks isn't the finish line, but fry hugging the heater while others eat well usually points to feeding or water quality rather than genetics alone. When I grow out fry I use a 30 gallon bare bottom tank, dual sponge filters on low simmer, 86 to 87F, and feed small amounts of powder fry food five times daily plus live baby brine twice. I change 50 percent water daily for the first eight weeks because fry poop loads up fast on bare bottom glass. If nitrate creeps above 10 ppm growth slows even when ammonia reads zero. Parent size matters but batch feeding response tells you more, if half the group attacks food within thirty seconds you're probably fine on portions. Consider separating the slow eaters into a small floating nursery box same temp same tank so they get first shot at baby brine without competition.
Haven
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I wonder if the room lighting plays a bigger role than people admit. My adult Discus seem calmer with a timer set to ten hours on a low white LED bar, and the tank sits across from a north facing window so no direct sun hits the glass. When I had fry once they didn't grow fast either, though honestly I was traveling a lot and my neighbor fed flakes, which probably didn't help. Have you checked whether the heater is actually holding temp at the substrate level and not just at the surface? I read somewhere that bare bottom tanks lose heat faster near the glass edges. Maybe log morning and evening readings on a stick thermometer for a few days.
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Hartan
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Yeah those little dudes can be tricky for real. I had a batch in a 29 gallon, sponge filter, 85F, feeding beef heart mix twice daily plus powder whenever they looked hungry, and the runts stayed runts until I split them from the bullies. Bare bottom helped me vacuum poop every morning with a small siphon hose. If some fry chill by the heater all day I'd bump baby brine to twice daily and cut the sponge filter air down so the bubble strip isn't pushing them around the breeder. Also peep nitrate, stale water will mess with growth even if the fish look alive. Room temp swings at night can slow them too if the heater struggles.
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That's the split I'd watch. Active ones might be fine while the heater huggers fall behind fast in a 40 gallon breeder with bare bottom. I run powder four times daily, baby brine once, sometimes a tiny beef heart mix after week four in a 36 breeder at 86F with daily 35 percent water changes and two sponge filters. Pulling parents at two weeks is normal, but competition shifts once they're gone. If nitrate holds under 10 ppm and temp is steady, try moving five slowest fry to a floating box same heater setting so they get clean food without getting bullied off the corner.
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jennyfish
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Oh fun, another slow fry panic thread. Everyone always jumps to daily fifty percent water changes like we're running a public aquarium. My last spawn did fine on every other day twenty percent in a planted 40 breeder with driftwood and a gentle canister filter return capped with foam. Powder three times, baby brine once, heater at 85F, parents in till week three because I'm lazy about pulling them. Some fry were half the size of siblings and caught up by month three without nursery box drama. Before rebuilding the whole schedule maybe just weigh whether the runts actually eat when food hits the water or if bigger fry steamroll them every time.
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jiffix
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Naw man daily fifty percent is wild unless you got nothing else to do. I ran fry in a 20 long, sponge filter, 84F, powder twice daily plus frozen brine when I remember, twenty percent changes twice a week with dechlorinator and they're chunky enough. If yours hang on the heater maybe the room drops at night, mine stalled until I put a foam lid on the breeder and stopped blasting air through the sponge. Genetics play too, not every fish from the same spawn grows even.
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knight
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Real talk, six week fry should show more than nibbling if temps stable. I'd test nitrate daily for a week in that 40 breeder, bare bottom with sponge filter at 84F tells me poop sits on glass until you change water. Every other day thirty percent might leave nitrate climbing if you're feeding powder three times plus brine. Try bumping baby brine to twice daily for the runts only, target fed with a turkey baster near the heater where they hang. If siblings triple their size while others don't after two weeks separated, that's genetics. If separated ones perk up, it's food and water.
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anybody try that new pizza place on fifth. the pepperoni slice was huge and cheap. i went fishing at the lake last weekend with a spinning rod and caught nothing but sunburn. my cousin said his discus tanks and canister filters cost more than his car payment which seems dumb. he does fifty percent water changes twice a week on a ninety gallon and still complains about nitrate. do you guys watch basketball, the playoffs were nuts. weather hit ninety yesterday, air conditioner died, slept on the couch. neighbor asks why my aquarium heater clicks on all night.
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