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Is my betta lazy?

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2025 7:37 am
by orchestraConductor
I've had my betta for about six months now, and he's living his best life in a 5-gal tank with a black nerite snail as his only roommate. Ever since the big move from his old 10-gal tank, he's turned into the laziest betta I've ever seen. He's found this one spot that's basically his happy place – the filter intake. Anytime he's done swimming, he'll swim up to it and just...stop. It's like the tank is empty most of the time, 'cause he's just chillin' against that intake.

He can swim just fine, don't get me wrong – he'll do laps around the tank every now and then, or swim up to say hi when I walk into the room. But if he's not attached to that filter, he's probably flopped against one of the flat rocks in the tank, being his usual dramatic self. I mean, the little guy knows he's a diva.

Is this normal for a betta, though? In his old tank, he was always swimming around in the middle, but now he's just obsessed with that intake. I've got a 5-gal tank with a hidden filter in the back, and the temp's usually around 76-77°F (oops, got the numbers mixed up earlier). I feed him a few pellets a day, and all his water tests come back perfect – we use the advanced kits, so I'm pretty sure it's not a water quality issue. He's got plenty of hiding spots, which he loves, so I'm stumped. Is he just being lazy, or is there something going on that I'm missing?

Re: Is my betta lazy?

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2025 9:25 am
by duskys
orchestraConductor wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2025 7:37 am I've had my betta for about six months now, and he's living his best life in a 5-gal tank with a black nerite snail as his only roommate. Ever since the big move from his old 10-gal tank, he's turned into the laziest betta I've ever seen. He's found this one spot that's basically his happy place – the filter intake. Anytime he's done swimming, he'll swim up to it and just...stop. It's like the tank is empty most of the time, 'cause he's just chillin' against that intake.

He can swim just fine, don't get me wrong – he'll do laps around the tank every now and then, or swim up to say hi when I walk into the room. But if he's not attached to that filter, he's probably flopped against one of the flat rocks in the tank, being his usual dramatic self. I mean, the little guy knows he's a diva.

Is this normal for a betta, though? In his old tank, he was always swimming around in the middle, but now he's just obsessed with that intake. I've got a 5-gal tank with a hidden filter in the back, and the temp's usually around 76-77°F (oops, got the numbers mixed up earlier). I feed him a few pellets a day, and all his water tests come back perfect – we use the advanced kits, so I'm pretty sure it's not a water quality issue. He's got plenty of hiding spots, which he loves, so I'm stumped. Is he just being lazy, or is there something going on that I'm missing?
I think the ideal temperature for a betta is between 75-80 degrees Fahrenheit, so you might want to consider adjusting that. I've also found that adding plants to the tank can make a big difference - my betta loves swimming through the leaves, just be sure to choose something that won't damage his fins or tail. If your betta doesn't have any white or silvery spots or complications, he might just be lazy or still getting used to the new tank.

Re: Is my betta lazy?

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2025 9:43 am
by orchestraConductor
duskys wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2025 9:25 am
orchestraConductor wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2025 7:37 am I've had my betta for about six months now, and he's living his best life in a 5-gal tank with a black nerite snail as his only roommate. Ever since the big move from his old 10-gal tank, he's turned into the laziest betta I've ever seen. He's found this one spot that's basically his happy place – the filter intake. Anytime he's done swimming, he'll swim up to it and just...stop. It's like the tank is empty most of the time, 'cause he's just chillin' against that intake.

He can swim just fine, don't get me wrong – he'll do laps around the tank every now and then, or swim up to say hi when I walk into the room. But if he's not attached to that filter, he's probably flopped against one of the flat rocks in the tank, being his usual dramatic self. I mean, the little guy knows he's a diva.

Is this normal for a betta, though? In his old tank, he was always swimming around in the middle, but now he's just obsessed with that intake. I've got a 5-gal tank with a hidden filter in the back, and the temp's usually around 76-77°F (oops, got the numbers mixed up earlier). I feed him a few pellets a day, and all his water tests come back perfect – we use the advanced kits, so I'm pretty sure it's not a water quality issue. He's got plenty of hiding spots, which he loves, so I'm stumped. Is he just being lazy, or is there something going on that I'm missing?
I think the ideal temperature for a betta is between 75-80 degrees Fahrenheit, so you might want to consider adjusting that. I've also found that adding plants to the tank can make a big difference - my betta loves swimming through the leaves, just be sure to choose something that won't damage his fins or tail. If your betta doesn't have any white or silvery spots or complications, he might just be lazy or still getting used to the new tank.
Just realized I wrote 96-97 instead of 76-77, brain fart from writing this before bed.

He's got plants, but honestly, they might as well not be there - he completely ignores them. I even gave him a leaf to nap on, but it's like I didn't bother, the snail seems to enjoy it more. He does have some white tips on a few fins, but I figured that's just regrowth from when he lost most of his tail and fins due to stress from that new fish in the 10gal. He's been in this tank for about 4 months now, so I'd think he'd be settled in by now.

Re: Is my betta lazy?

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2025 10:37 am
by happyone
I've been doing some research and it seems like bettas really thrive in warmer waters, like 78-80 degrees Fahrenheit.

I'm curious, did you properly cycle the tank before moving your betta in? It's a crucial step to ensure the tank is safe for him.

Also, what kind of test kit are you using? I've been using the advanced testing kits and I'd love to compare notes - what are your readings for ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate?

Re: Is my betta lazy?

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2025 12:29 pm
by fin_tank
I'm still thinking that the filter might be a bit too powerful for your betta. They're not exactly known for being strong swimmers, and they can get tired pretty easily. In the wild, they're used to really sluggish water with hardly any flow. So, when I hear that your betta is flopping against the rock or sticking to the intake, it sounds like he's getting exhausted from fighting the flow. Now that the tank is smaller, the flow might be too much for him. Have you thought about dropping the flow a bit to see if that makes a difference? You could even try turning the filter off for a bit, just to see how that affects his behavior. I'm willing to bet he'll start swimming around a lot more.

Re: Is my betta lazy?

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2025 12:56 pm
by orchestraConductor
happyone wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2025 10:37 am I've been doing some research and it seems like bettas really thrive in warmer waters, like 78-80 degrees Fahrenheit.

I'm curious, did you properly cycle the tank before moving your betta in? It's a crucial step to ensure the tank is safe for him.

Also, what kind of test kit are you using? I've been using the advanced testing kits and I'd love to compare notes - what are your readings for ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate?
I'm hesitant to mess with the heater, the sticker that showed the temperature settings has fallen off, so I'm clueless about which direction to turn it.

The tank was fully cycled before I moved him in, and we're using the API freshwater master kit for testing. Thankfully, all the levels have consistently been within the normal range, except for that one time early on.

Re: Is my betta lazy?

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2025 1:29 pm
by orchestraConductor
fin_tank wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2025 12:29 pm I'm still thinking that the filter might be a bit too powerful for your betta. They're not exactly known for being strong swimmers, and they can get tired pretty easily. In the wild, they're used to really sluggish water with hardly any flow. So, when I hear that your betta is flopping against the rock or sticking to the intake, it sounds like he's getting exhausted from fighting the flow. Now that the tank is smaller, the flow might be too much for him. Have you thought about dropping the flow a bit to see if that makes a difference? You could even try turning the filter off for a bit, just to see how that affects his behavior. I'm willing to bet he'll start swimming around a lot more.
I'm going to have to get creative with figuring out how to adjust the pump, it's all the way at the bottom of the hidden part and the space is so tight, not even my fingers can fit down there to make any adjustments.

Re: Is my betta lazy?

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2025 3:13 pm
by wyrmhide
Hi, welcome to the forum. I've got some thoughts on your lazy betta. Too much water flow is a common cause of this behavior, and if left unchecked, it can lead to a host of other problems, including obesity and even death. I'm curious, what model is your filter? Knowing this might help us figure out how to adjust the flow.

In the meantime, you might want to try feeding your betta twice a day, just a few pellets at a time. What kind of food is he eating, by the way? Also, I noticed you mentioned the water temperature is around 76-77 degrees. That's a bit chilly for a betta. Do you have a heater in the tank? If so, you might want to adjust the temperature to something a bit warmer.

To me, it sounds like your betta might be lethargic, which can be caused by a number of things. But based on what you've told me, I'm inclined to think it's either the water temperature or quality that's the culprit.

Re: Is my betta lazy?

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2025 4:24 pm
by flamex
orchestraConductor wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2025 7:37 am I've had my betta for about six months now, and he's living his best life in a 5-gal tank with a black nerite snail as his only roommate. Ever since the big move from his old 10-gal tank, he's turned into the laziest betta I've ever seen. He's found this one spot that's basically his happy place – the filter intake. Anytime he's done swimming, he'll swim up to it and just...stop. It's like the tank is empty most of the time, 'cause he's just chillin' against that intake.

He can swim just fine, don't get me wrong – he'll do laps around the tank every now and then, or swim up to say hi when I walk into the room. But if he's not attached to that filter, he's probably flopped against one of the flat rocks in the tank, being his usual dramatic self. I mean, the little guy knows he's a diva.

Is this normal for a betta, though? In his old tank, he was always swimming around in the middle, but now he's just obsessed with that intake. I've got a 5-gal tank with a hidden filter in the back, and the temp's usually around 76-77°F (oops, got the numbers mixed up earlier). I feed him a few pellets a day, and all his water tests come back perfect – we use the advanced kits, so I'm pretty sure it's not a water quality issue. He's got plenty of hiding spots, which he loves, so I'm stumped. Is he just being lazy, or is there something going on that I'm missing?
I've noticed that if the water flow is too strong, it can cause my betta to rest or lodge somewhere. My betta does this too, but only for a short while before going back to patrolling the tank. I think it's possible that too much water flow could be the cause, or maybe your betta is just bored or getting old. Adding some new decorations might help keep him engaged and interested in exploring his surroundings. I've found that having other fish in the tank can really bring out the best in a betta, but I'm guessing your tank might be a bit too small for that. As for the water temperature, I've always been a bit skeptical about the whole 'warm water' thing. I mean, in the wild, betta fish live in ponds that can get as low as 10c in winter and over 40c in summer, so I'm not convinced that temperature is the main issue here. Maybe it's just a factor with domesticated betta fish, I don't know.

Re: Is my betta lazy?

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2025 5:59 pm
by happyone
flamex wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2025 4:24 pm
orchestraConductor wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2025 7:37 am I've had my betta for about six months now, and he's living his best life in a 5-gal tank with a black nerite snail as his only roommate. Ever since the big move from his old 10-gal tank, he's turned into the laziest betta I've ever seen. He's found this one spot that's basically his happy place – the filter intake. Anytime he's done swimming, he'll swim up to it and just...stop. It's like the tank is empty most of the time, 'cause he's just chillin' against that intake.

He can swim just fine, don't get me wrong – he'll do laps around the tank every now and then, or swim up to say hi when I walk into the room. But if he's not attached to that filter, he's probably flopped against one of the flat rocks in the tank, being his usual dramatic self. I mean, the little guy knows he's a diva.

Is this normal for a betta, though? In his old tank, he was always swimming around in the middle, but now he's just obsessed with that intake. I've got a 5-gal tank with a hidden filter in the back, and the temp's usually around 76-77°F (oops, got the numbers mixed up earlier). I feed him a few pellets a day, and all his water tests come back perfect – we use the advanced kits, so I'm pretty sure it's not a water quality issue. He's got plenty of hiding spots, which he loves, so I'm stumped. Is he just being lazy, or is there something going on that I'm missing?
I've noticed that if the water flow is too strong, it can cause my betta to rest or lodge somewhere. My betta does this too, but only for a short while before going back to patrolling the tank. I think it's possible that too much water flow could be the cause, or maybe your betta is just bored or getting old. Adding some new decorations might help keep him engaged and interested in exploring his surroundings. I've found that having other fish in the tank can really bring out the best in a betta, but I'm guessing your tank might be a bit too small for that. As for the water temperature, I've always been a bit skeptical about the whole 'warm water' thing. I mean, in the wild, betta fish live in ponds that can get as low as 10c in winter and over 40c in summer, so I'm not convinced that temperature is the main issue here. Maybe it's just a factor with domesticated betta fish, I don't know.
I think I'll chime in here, since we're talking about betta behavior. Most bettas you buy nowadays are tank-raised, which might affect their natural behavior and how they adapt to our tanks.