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Re: Growing and caring for echinodorus bleheri bulbs

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 12:23 pm
by Lexat
When purchasing, I'd suggest going with a seller that's knowledgeable about their products.

Re: Growing and caring for echinodorus bleheri bulbs

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 1:17 pm
by Clack
Will get one sorted as soon as I can, stuck at work for now so probably gonna have to be tomorrow.

Re: Growing and caring for echinodorus bleheri bulbs

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:19 pm
by Clack
Just managed to get a picture - it's the one with the snail on the stalk, hopefully someone can ID it for me. And in the second pic, is that plant in the background sending out roots for a new plant? If so, what's the best way to separate it without causing damage?

Re: Growing and caring for echinodorus bleheri bulbs

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:30 pm
by thenoob
I think it's probably an aponogeton, but the pic doesn't give me a clear view of the leaf structure. There are a few you can check online to see if they match your leaf structure - crispus, longiplumulosu (don't think it's that one), undulatus (not likely either), ulvaceus (these grow fast but hibernate a lot - just leave them alone and they'll respawn in 6-12 months). Those are my top guesses. If it's not a bulb plant, there are a few crypts that could be it, but the pic doesn't show enough leaf detail to narrow it down.

Re: Growing and caring for echinodorus bleheri bulbs

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:57 pm
by Clack
thenoob wrote: Tue Aug 27, 2024 10:02 am
Clack wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2024 8:25 pm I picked up an echinodorus bleheri bulb about a month ago online and it's gone mental, giving great coverage at the top of my tank. Now I want to get one or two more, but I'm having zero luck finding them - and to make matters worse, I've got no idea where I bought the first one from. I'm in the UK and all the usual online stores seem to only have the plants, not bulbs. I'm keen to avoid any unwanted snails, so does anyone know of any online sellers that do bulbs or have a good reputation for pest-free plants?
A picture of the plant would really help narrow down the ID. I've seen some seveflake aponogeton plants that bear a resemblance to echinodorus, so that's my current guess. Seveflake can grow to be pretty massive.
Thanks for taking a look. I had a few pics of the leaves in an earlier post, the one with the frogs. I've checked out the ones you mentioned, but the leaves on my plant don't have those crinkly edges, they're quite straight-edged. The other plant in the pic, the one to the right with the crinkly leaves, is actually a different one - sorry about the confusion. Whatever this plant is, my frogs are loving it, just keeping my fingers crossed it stays healthy.

Re: Growing and caring for echinodorus bleheri bulbs

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 4:40 pm
by raylite
It is almost certainly an apogeonton but the picture doesn't give me a clear view of the leaf structure. A few you can check on line to see if they match your leaf structure include crispus, longiplumulosu (not likely), undulatus (not likely), ulvaceus (these are very fast growing but hibernate frequently - just leave them alone and they will respawn in 6 to 12 months) - i think those are the most likely bet.

Re: Growing and caring for echinodorus bleheri bulbs

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 5:00 pm
by thenoob
Clack wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2024 8:25 pm I picked up an echinodorus bleheri bulb about a month ago online and it's gone mental, giving great coverage at the top of my tank. Now I want to get one or two more, but I'm having zero luck finding them - and to make matters worse, I've got no idea where I bought the first one from. I'm in the UK and all the usual online stores seem to only have the plants, not bulbs. I'm keen to avoid any unwanted snails, so does anyone know of any online sellers that do bulbs or have a good reputation for pest-free plants?
Missed the earlier picture, will check distachyos

Re: Growing and caring for echinodorus bleheri bulbs

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 5:28 pm
by Clack
After a bit of research, I'm inclined to think it bears a resemblance to Aponogeton henkelianus, although the leaves aren't an exact match. I'm starting to lean towards the idea that it's indeed some type of Aponogeton. In the meantime, I decided to mix things up and ordered a Nymphaea rubra bulb instead.

Re: Growing and caring for echinodorus bleheri bulbs

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 6:58 pm
by thenoob
Clack wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2024 8:25 pm I picked up an echinodorus bleheri bulb about a month ago online and it's gone mental, giving great coverage at the top of my tank. Now I want to get one or two more, but I'm having zero luck finding them - and to make matters worse, I've got no idea where I bought the first one from. I'm in the UK and all the usual online stores seem to only have the plants, not bulbs. I'm keen to avoid any unwanted snails, so does anyone know of any online sellers that do bulbs or have a good reputation for pest-free plants?
Lotus plants aren't my favorite, despite their beauty. They can be great if you're willing to put in the work, but they tend to grow out of control over time. I think you should consider the long-term implications before adding them to your tank. They spread by producing plantlets that break off from the main bulb, and if you don't manage them, they'll take over. They also want to grow leaves up to the surface, so you'll need to trim them regularly if you want to keep them low. And let's be honest, they can get massive.

Re: Growing and caring for echinodorus bleheri bulbs

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 8:55 pm
by Clack
thenoob wrote: Tue Aug 27, 2024 10:02 am
Clack wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2024 8:25 pm I picked up an echinodorus bleheri bulb about a month ago online and it's gone mental, giving great coverage at the top of my tank. Now I want to get one or two more, but I'm having zero luck finding them - and to make matters worse, I've got no idea where I bought the first one from. I'm in the UK and all the usual online stores seem to only have the plants, not bulbs. I'm keen to avoid any unwanted snails, so does anyone know of any online sellers that do bulbs or have a good reputation for pest-free plants?
A picture of the plant would really help narrow down the ID. I've seen some seveflake aponogeton plants that bear a resemblance to echinodorus, so that's my current guess. Seveflake can grow to be pretty massive.
Thanks for the warning, I'm still getting to grips with planted aquariums and didn't even know what I had to start with. I don't mind some maintenance, but I also like plants that reach the surface as my frogs love chilling under the leaves. Fingers crossed I can find a balance that works for everyone.